Honda Beat Radio

I’ve been disappointed with my Honda Beat radio. The radio doesn’t work well. The sound quality is poor and the input options are limited. When you’re driving a convertible with the top down, you need some good tunes. The radio in the Honda Beat is smaller than the standard DIN size. There’s five common options that I’ve seen online:

  1. Buy a refurbished stock radio. It might work better.
  2. Buy a marine radio. Marine radios are smaller than car radios and you could install one behind the faceplate of the stock radio to avoid altering the appearance. Many marine radios come with bluetooth and a remote that you could use to control the radio, even if the head unit is hidden.
  3. Buy an aftermarket center console. Some people have purchased aftermarket center consoles that are wide enough to support a standard DIN radio. Generally, they do not match the color or texture of the original console and surrounding pieces. Currently, I can only find one seller on Yahoo Auctions Japan. The seller has bad reviews and the center console is pretty expensive.
  4. Mount a DIN radio somewhere else. I’ve seen several single DIN radios mounted under the glove box. The glove box is particularly small and becomes even less usable with this configuration. I’ve also seen the radio mounted sideways against the center console. These options require some drilling, but add a more modern radio with minimal hacking of the dash. You could mount a radio further away from the stock radio, but you’d have a lot of re-wiring to do.
  5. Buy a 20th Anniversary Radio. Honda produced 3,500 new radios for the Honda Beat in 2011. These radios maintain a stock appearance, but have improved buttons and add Bluetooth and USB support. Additionally, Honda released improved dash radios. The MSRP for the radio was ¥65,829 and the MSRP for the speakers were ¥33,943. Yep. About $1,000 for a new radio and speakers. I convinced myself that this was totally worth it and definitely a good deal. Unfortunately, I was 7 years too late. I went to the Honda Dealer in Chatan to see if they could still get their hands on one. The staff spoke limited English, and I don’t speak nearly as much Japanese as I should, but, fortunately, I brought a print out of the Honda parts page and pointing is universally understood. They needed my title before they could do a parts search. It took about 20 minutes for them to determine that there was no hope for them to get the radio or the speakers. They recommended Yahoo Auctions as the best possibility. There’s currently one 20th Anniversary Radio on Yahoo Auctions. It’s listed for ¥200,000.

Honda Beat – List of Resources

My Beat
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After purchasing my Honda Beat, I’ve been working on my plan of action to fix the various issues. I’ll update this page with new resources as I find them.

Worldwide:

  1. http://www.hondabeat.com.au: This Australian bloke has digital copies of service manuals, parts list, and step by step instructions for radio repairs.
  2. UK Honda Beat Club: A group in the UK dedicated to Honda Beats. In their forums, you’ll find lots of step-by-step guides in English for various Beat related projects.

Used Parts:

  1. JapaneseVehicles.com: I haven’t bought anything from them yet, but they do have a nice listing of parts online.
  2. Buyee: I thought Yahoo was a dying company, but somehow they’re the market leader in Japan. Yahoo Auctions is the auction site in Japan. It’s recommended in several forum posts on the UK Honda Beat Club forum and was recommended to me by the staff at my local Okinawa Honda dealer. Buyee provides English language translation of Yahoo Japan and shipping services outside the country. The translation service is not perfect and applies more to the content of the listing than to the title. I’ve found that the search still works better in Japanese. While looking for a new radio for my beat, I’ve been searching for “スカイサウンドコンポ” as opposed to “Sky Sound Component”. I really want to just search “Honda Beat Radio”, but that search comes up empty.
  3. Crooooober.com: This site has way too many O’s in the title. It is a listing of parts from various junk yards.

Okinawa Specific:

  1. Takushi Junk Yard: If you need Honda Beat parts, you might find them here.

Takushi Junk Yard

A couple of weeks ago, while I was driving down 23, I saw a glistening Honda Beat rising above a heap of wrecked cars. I hadn’t been to any junk yards looking for a Honda Beat, but I knew Takushi had one! Takushi Junk Yard shows only as an Auto Body Shop on Google Maps and it doesn’t have any reviews, but once the issues in my Honda Beat became clear, I knew I had to check it out. When I pulled in it looked like they were fixing cars in makeshift stalls on the left, and there was a tire shed on the right. There weren’t any marked parking spaces so I went straight and parked at the top of the hill above the junk yard. A member of the staff immediately greeted me but didn’t speak English, and I still can only say hello and yes in Japanese. He directed me to a staff member who was busy under a car, but I assumed he could speak English. After a couple minutes of waiting, he came out from the car to grab a tool and saw me waiting with the other staff member. I try not to bother people who are under cars. I asked him about gauges for my Honda Beat. He took me into the junk yard and showed me his beautiful white Honda Beat that was sitting on top of a storage container. It had been thoroughly scavenged, but it still had it’s instrument cluster. I don’t think Takushi is a pick-n-pull type of junk yard. I don’t think the technician quite understood my question, but he told me he could have the parts removed and ready in two hours. It would be 6000 yen for the instrument cluster. That seemed reasonable. I paid him a small deposit and agreed to come back in two hours. I showed up right on time, and the instrument cluster was removed and ready. I paid the same technician the remainder of the 6000 yen, and he handed me the instrument cluster. Takushi didn’t seem to do receipts or invoices. That’s chill. I don’t need ’em. The cluster had some corrosion from being exposed to the Okinawa humidity. I think the Beat had been there a long time with missing doors. The gauges didn’t all work, but I only need the fuel gauge and the temperature gauge. After several hours of work, I realized I’m an idiot. The gauges weren’t the problem. When the dealer said the gauge didn’t work, they meant it was displaying incorrect information. Now I need to do some actual diagnosis and check the sending unit. Anyways, Takushi seems like an alright place. They have parts. They aren’t expensive. If you need parts and your favorite junk yard doesn’t have it, maybe Takushi does. Unless you need parts for a Honda Beat. They don’t have any more. I bought them all.

R12 A/C Service

Most cars made after 1993 use R134a refrigerant. The production of R12 (Dichlorodifluoromethane) was banned in developed countries, Japan included, in 1996. That makes R12 refrigerant very hard to find, both in the United States, and in Japan. Unfortunately, that’s the refrigerant used in my recently acquired 1991 Honda Beat. While a convertible is meant to be driven with the top down, I found myself sweating if I put the top up even when I had the A/C set to max. It was clear the A/C system was working, but it wasn’t working well. I hoped recharging the system would rejuvenate it. I had two options, either convert the system to R134a, which would be expensive and would have reduced performance as my A/C system was designed to use R12, or find an auto shop that was still certified to handle R12 and had a supply of the gas they could purchase. I should note that R12 and R134a do not mix. One shop that I contacted told me they had a special hose that allowed them to recharge a R12 system with R134a. That’s not a thing. If I was being generous, I’d assume they meant they could convert R12 to R134a, but I’m not generous and I will never contact them again. Luckily, Toma’s Garage still has R12 equipment and gas on hand. When I spoke with them on the phone, they said they could perform the service immediately, but I should get there before 11:15 so they can recharge and test the A/C system before they take lunch at noon. Their good reviews are well deserved. I sat in the waiting room for about 30 minutes before my A/C was recharged and they’d verified the work with a test drive. When I got back in my car, it was an amazing difference. The A/C actually worked. The only downside was the cost. R12 cost 3500 yen per can through Toma’s It took two cans to recharge my system, plus labor. Worth it.

If you’re one of the other three Americans on Okinawa with a car that needs a R-12 recharge, I’d recommend Toma’s.

Buying a Car from Mainland Japan

Kei cars are cramped, uncomfortable, under powered, and a blast to drive. Following untimely destruction of my Pajero Mini, I wanted to get something more exotic. Before I arrived at Okinawa, I read Ken Saito’s review of the new S660 and loved the idea of a Kei coupe convertible. I was struggling to decide between a hard top Suzuki Cappuccino or a mid-engined Honda Beat. I showed my wife pictures of both and she advised “I don’t care.” I decided to get the Beat.

You might not love Kei cars. You probably hate them. That’s okay. You’ll have a similar process to purchase your Okinawan dream car, maybe a classic Nissan Skyline GT-R or Diesel 4WD Toyota Land Cruiser, from mainland Japan. From start to finish, it took about two months. If you were more driven, you could get it done much quicker.

I looked at Japanese auction sites and Goo-net, but decided to work with a local dealer. I contacted Auto Shop Z. For $500, which they require as a deposit, they’ll do all of the translation, coordination, and paperwork to bring a car from mainland Japan to Okinawa. On April 29, I drove to Auto Shop Z with my $500 deposit. We talked about what kind of car I was looking for, any special requirements, and my budget. If we they could find the car on the island, we’d save the shipping cost and I’d have it quicker. Unfortunately, the local Honda Beats were in very poor shape. There were two listed on Goo-net, but both had close to 200K kilometers and had excessive body rust. I also preferred a Honda Beat with OEM parts and the ridiculous zebra patterened seats. And it couldn’t be teal. The Beat looks terrible in teal. I searched on Goo-net and found several Beats that appeared to be in good condition, not teal, and were in my price range. I sent the links to Auto Shop Z and they contacted all of the dealers.

On May 12, I picked up a loaner car from Auto Shop Z. They let me keep it until I picked up my Honda Beat. While I was in, we looked at the responses from the dealers. Regrettably, none of the four seemed interested in the hassle of shipping a car to Okinawa. Two of them said no and the other two quoted significantly increased prices over what was listed on goo-net. Shucks.

On May 22, Auto Shop Z contacted me to see if I was interested in another Beat listed on goo-net. A nice yellow beat with 84k kilometers. When I had searched goo-net, I had ignored the car since the listing hadn’t been updated in four months and I assumed it was no longer available. It was listed as goo-net certified with a 3 star interior and 3 star exterior. The dealer had been unable to sell the car for a while, which could have been a warning that it had some issues, but was interested and willing to ship the car to Okinawa.

On May 25, I paid 475,000 yen for the car and shipping costs. Two minor annoyances here — the shipping company misquoted to price, which I paid an additional 7,000 yen after the car arrived, and the dealer notified Auto Shop Z that the temperature gauge didn’t work after I paid and they were preparing to ship. Still, not enough to derail my multi-month dream of owning a Honda Beat!

On Jun 8, the car arrived on Okinawa. I agreed to have Auto Shop Z take care of the maintenance, JCI, road tax, and registration. They sent me a picture of the title which I used to change my insurance policy to cover the Honda Beat, instead of the Pajero Mini that I junked. I also got a Letter of Attorney from JSVRO at Camp Foster so that Auto Shop Z could register the car. I brought my insurance and Letter of Attorney to Auto Shop Z on 12 Jun.

On Jun 18, the car was ready for pickup! I paid 48,160 yen for the cost of maintenance, JCI, road tax, and registration, plus the additional 7,000 yen for the shipping misquote. My car had A-plates and was ready to drive. I smiled gleefully as I shifted gears with the revving loudly behind me attempting to muster all 63-hp to merge onto the expressway.

My joy was only tempered slightly by the many issues the car had. The car was dirty. It wasn’t the end of the world, but I would have thought the dealership would clean it more thoroughly before shipping it. Of course, it was a well used, 27 year old car. It was a given that the body had dents, there were chips in the paint, and the convertible top was a little discolored and some of the threads were worn. However, the clear coat was falling off fo the trunk and rear bumper. The paint had looked to be in much better condition in the photos. The A/C was weak. It wasn’t just the temperature gauge that didn’t work, the fuel gauge was also erroneously displaying full. I decided to fill the car up when I got home, only to discover that the fuel door was stuck. The radio didn’t get any FM signal. I didn’t mind the radio issues on the drive home, because the engine was screaming at 6,000 rpm in 5th gear just to maintain 80 kph, and that was music to my ears. I didn’t realized that there was no power steering in the Honda Beat, which made me love the car even more. The Check Engine light was burnt out, but the car does have a good engine and transmission. The clutch is fantastic and the gears shifted smoothly.

The car had more issues than I expected but I’m still pleased with my purchase. The car is absurd and impractical. The many issues will provide projects for weekends to come. If I was going to do it over, I’d probably increase my budget to look for a car in better condition, or wait indefinitely until I found a great deal. However, I was without a car and I didn’t want to go through the hassle of buying another car while I waited. I also didn’t want to deal with the paperwork to own to cars at once. It’s probably not hard, I just don’t like paperwork.

Auto Shop Z was a great dealer to partner with and made the whole process easy. If you’re buying a more expensive car, you’ll find likely many more dealerships from mainland Japan that are willing to work with you.